Updated: Using Musicmatch Jukebox to Bypass DRM in Napster, Virgin, etc.

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(for educational purposes only)

    ok kids here you go

    for educational purposes only

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  • guest
    I'm not sure I understand why the realtime now? I have a few computers and the first one I just installed 6.1 and it worked great and each song would take about 10 sec. Now I tried installing on computer 2 and all of those songs were recently downloaded(seems anything just downloaded doesnt work with just 6.1 anymore). It doesnt work at all (6.1) but when I try your directions it works but as you said in real time. Do you know why the change from very fast to realtime? Anyway of solving this? Thanks
  • ScOrPiOn
    Worked like a charm :D I could not transfer them to mp3 via "Advanced WMA Workshop" but no need to since the MP3 player is compatible with WMA files.
  • Anonymous
    This will patch the software to convert wma files at full speed.

    http://techsupp.musicmatch.com/techtools/wma.inp.mmz
  • Anonymous
    8O Dude Way To go Bravo I love you! lol thanks for the awesome tip on MMJB and thanks to the guest who gave us the .mmz file for the speed increase now i can listen to my wma's on my Zen touch mp3 player! weeeeeeee
  • guest
    Might seem like a dumb question but do i put this file in the plugins folder? and then do i erase the origanal wma.inp ?

    Thanks abounch for fixing the problem and posting back to the issue so quick!
  • Anonymous
    im stuck :(

    install mmjb 6.1 -- done
    then goto the musicmatch file in your programs file -- done
    open Plugins and delete wma.inp -- done
    then copy the file on your desktop --? stuck what file do i copy to my desktop?
    and paste it in the plugins folder --? music match plugin folder?

    im sorry i know im slowww :( haha! pls can someone help?
  • Anonymous
    i tried it again .. it says cannot convert

    the audio data formats are incompatible
  • guest
    ok just checking first before I type this up for you did you read?
    http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips868.html first because it sounds like you missed a step or two? Now with this most recent post of the patch file I am not sure you need to start with 6.0 but I do know I have done it this way and it does work. But I have not used the patch yet for I am waiting for the other question to be answered let us know if you still stuck
  • Guest
    hey did you get the right file changed out b/c I had the same error last night then relized that I had the wmv.inp file instead of the right one wma.inp

    check that see if that was the case
  • Anonymous
    yup i deleted the right one :D
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>guest wrote:</h6>ok just checking first before I type this up for you did you read?
    http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips868.html first because it sounds like you missed a step or two? Now with this most recent post of the patch file I am not sure you need to start with 6.0 but I do know I have done it this way and it does work. But I have not used the patch yet for I am waiting for the other question to be answered let us know if you still stuck</ul>

    yup i read it :D
  • Anonymous
    still stuck
  • guest
    ok since you read it :D

    "install mmjb 6.0
    then goto the musicmatch file in your programs file
    open Plugins and copy wma.inp then save it on your desktop
    goto ad or remove programs and remove musicmatch jukebox"

    then you install 6.1 open plugins and replace with the wma.inp from 6.0

    now as to the new patch I've put it in the plugins folder with the other and it seems about realtime if not a hair (but not more) faster then the other And I tried with out and got the error stated above Audio not compatible or something of the nature

    as to the person above Put the orginal wma.inp (from 6.0) back in the folder and it will work
  • Anonymous
    ohh thanks super :D i will try it again
  • guest
    ok so i said earlier it wasnt much faster I take it back it is a little faster, but my other version on comp 1 would do a song in 10sec or less is there anyway to get it back to those speeds?
  • Anonymous
    just follow the directions WORD FOR WORD and also get that .mmz file from that guest that speeds up the converting .. its working for me right now I swear!
    i have already converted 340 songs so far Good luck =)
  • Anonymous
    Could anyone tell me where you should put the patch file to make full speed at? Does it go in the plugin folder and does it replace a file or simply add it
    to the others? Thank you
  • Anonymous
    "just follow the directions WORD FOR WORD and also get that .mmz file from that guest that speeds up the converting .. its working for me right now I swear! "
    There is no directions for this file. Could you let us know where to put the .mmz file and does it replace a existing file?

    And how long did it take for those 340 songs? My 1st computer is very fast and it does it just a little faster than realtime but my other slower computer that doesnt use the patch just a clean install of 6.1 (with only tracks downloaded prior to april 25th ((newer ones don't work)) can get them done in 10s or less. Now I must be missing something. Why the two different speeds? I even loaded it on another fast comp and same thing, not much faster than realtime. ? any thoughts anyone?
  • Anonymous
    This is a great method but I have ran into a problem, All of my music is in folders for Artist then Album then the songs. MMjb does not seem to look in subfolders, so I must go into each and every one and click convert. Needless to say with lots and lots of files that would take forever. I dont mind losing all the folders but I cant figure out how to move them into one big folder without going into each one and draging them out. Does anyone know a way or a program that can do such a thing? Thanks a bunch
  • Anonymous
    ok so i figured it out myself :oops: should of done a little more research before I posted that one But I still would like to know if that mmx file should replace something or just be added? thanks
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>Anonymous wrote:</h6> I dont mind losing all the folders but I cant figure out how to move them into one big folder without going into each one and draging them out. Does anyone know a way or a program that can do such a thing? Thanks a bunch</ul>

    Use the windows search feature. Search for *.wma. Select all and drag to a folder. Walla
  • Anonymous
    Still wondering if the mmz file will replace something or is just added?

    Also does anyone know if you can get napster to let you download more than 2 at a time?
  • Anonymous
    You know I don't get it, Yesterday there where 20 new posts on this, people asking questions, me and a few others helping them and then when I ask a question "where do you put the mmz file and does it simply get added or does it replace a file" No one says a word. Its been 2 days, I have answered a bunch of peoples questions and I can wait a while but this is retarded, Can someone PLEASE answer the question today? Its a simple question and for those of you that says it works great , can you take an extra one min and tell me where the .mmz file goes? thanks
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>Anonymous wrote:</h6>You know I don't get it, Yesterday there where 20 new posts on this, people asking questions, me and a few others helping them and then when I ask a question "where do you put the mmz file and does it simply get added or does it replace a file" No one says a word. Its been 2 days, I have answered a bunch of peoples questions and I can wait a while but this is retarded, Can someone PLEASE answer the question today? Its a simple question and for those of you that says it works great , can you take an extra one min and tell me where the .mmz file goes? thanks</ul>

    To be honest, I don't know where it goes. I just executed it, and it sped up the process.

    I do appreciate your help... I think mainly the problem is that nobody has really dissected what the file does. You download it, run it, and it works.

    OUT.
  • Too Bad So Sad
    Regarding the MMZ file. After doing the other steps as outlined in the original post (i.e. install 6.0, move wma.inp file, uninstall 6.0, install 6.1 and replace wma.inp file in 6.1 folder with old one from 6.0). Then download the MMZ file to the desktop and click on it. Just clicking on it and it installs/changes/does whatever to make the conversion process speedier.
  • Anonymous
    Thank you much for taking some time to help me. Just one question for you thought you said you executed it you mean you just double clicked it on your desktop? or in the program file dir? or program plugin dir? and it works after that? No one said it was an executable

    ok so i ran the file inside the plugin dir and now it gives me the error "this audio format is incapatable."

    this stinks any ideas?

    the file is in my plugin dir does it remain there? Thanks again for taking a moment to help.
  • Anonymous
    I just figured it out Firewall eventhough I said the program could not talk it did anyways (id love to figure out how that works)

    so i blocked all tried again and worked perfect Thanks very much for telling me to run the file THANKS
  • Too Bad So Sad
    Great. glad you got it to work.

    Not sure what's up with the firewall (what program did you block by the way - MM6.1?). I've only converted one file yesterday as an educational test to see if it could be done and it worked. If I try again I will just unplug cable from router so there's no Internet connection.
  • Anonymous
    yes thats the program i blocked 6.1 and it connects to a microsoft copr cntr or something like this and same thing with accoustica. it doesnt matter if you tell it no or not it connects. Im using sygate firewall. I would also run Peergaurdian (as it stops lots of trackers realtime and you can view them as they do it) hope this helps
  • smksignals
    i don't know about that self-extracting-file
    who knows what it's putting or where it's putting it

    anyways i wrote a new recipe should be on the home page in a few

    when it's posted i'll post a link here
  • smksignals
    i forgot

    the new recipe takes about 10 seconds
  • Anonymous
    rename the extension to .rar or .zip and you'll see what it includes. It replaces the wma.inp file
  • Too Bad So Sad
    Regarding the firewall still letting MM6/6.1 and Acoustica still connect to Internet, I read someplace on here in one of the other tips that it is actually the browser (Internet Explorer/Firefox - whatever your default is as I recall) that is connecting to the net. They suggested that you install two browsers and set one as the default and block access to that browser in your firewall and use other one for actual websurfing. Only prob. I see with that is that any links in email or docs you click on will launch default browser and be blocked.
  • davak
    <ul id="quote"><h6>smksignals wrote:</h6>i forgot

    the new recipe takes about 10 seconds</ul>

    SMK...

    I posted your recipe as an addendum to your old one.

    Thanks for the wonderful information!
  • davak
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>davak wrote:</h6>Totally updated.

    http://www.tech-recipes.com/windows_tips868.html</ul>

    thanx davak

    yup thats the updated workaround let me know what you think everyone
  • Anonymous
    Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. I was randomnly led to this site and it has been an unbelievable help. Thanks you so much for taking the time to figure this out. You don't know how much of a help it's been to me.
  • Anonymous
    "Regarding the firewall still letting MM6/6.1 and Acoustica still connect to Internet, I read someplace on here in one of the other tips that it is actually the browser (Internet Explorer/Firefox - whatever your default is as I recall) that is connecting to the net. They suggested that you install two browsers and set one as the default and block access to that browser in your firewall and use other one for actual websurfing. Only prob. I see with that is that any links in email or docs you click on will launch default browser and be blocked."[quote]Regarding the firewall still letting MM6/6.1 and Acoustica still connect to Internet, I read someplace on here in one of the other tips that it is actually the browser (Internet Explorer/Firefox - whatever your default is as I recall) that is connecting to the net. They suggested that you install two browsers and set one as the default and block access to that browser in your firewall and use other one for actual websurfing. Only prob. I see with that is that any links in email or docs you click on will launch default browser and be blocked." That is a suggestion that I use but only when not converting.
    When you convert it seems that if you just block the default browser that it will give you an error message of some sort (drm,not compatible formats and so on) but when you totally block all traffic then it will work fine. It seems that when you do the above method (just blocking a default browser) that good ol microsof will somehow still connect and give you an error.
    I was the one who originaly stated about the just blocking a default browser and this does work for a couple of things but i wouldn't leave it like that when attempting to educate yourself on these files. And also stated above , Make sure your running peergaurdian in the backround.
    I have seen all kinds of AP2P trackers trying to connect realtime and A LOT OF TIMES and without it (peergaurdian) your firewall does not protect against these threats
  • Anonymous
    It seems that oldversion.com is getting hammered right now. Does anyone have a mirror of these programs?
  • smksignals
    seems oldversion was shutdown or the're getting slamed
    try this link
    http://www.old-software.com/software-31.html
  • smksignals
    davak

    did you get the pm's
    if so sorry for the copy
    if not could you please add the link in the last post to my recipe

    thanx


    i wonder if music match is making oldversions take mmjb off
  • davak
    recipe updated as requested.
  • Anonymous
    Hey guys... this is brilliant. I just bought a Creative Zen Micro yesterday and they gave me 2 months of Napster-to-go free with purchase. I did a quick google search for file conversion issues because i heard of holes through word of mouth and ran into your website. pulled the musicmatch manuever and it is fantastic. I plan on checking your site first from now on with any computer technical issues. Thanks again.

    p.s. i'm sure they'll shut musicmatch's hole down soon, but i'll enjoy it while i can. got some downloading to do!
  • davak
    <ul id="quote"><h6>Anonymous wrote:</h6>Hey guys... this is brilliant. I just bought a Creative Zen Micro yesterday and they gave me 2 months of Napster-to-go free with purchase. I did a quick google search for file conversion issues because i heard of holes through word of mouth and ran into your website. pulled the musicmatch manuever and it is fantastic. I plan on checking your site first from now on with any computer technical issues. Thanks again.

    p.s. i'm sure they'll shut musicmatch's hole down soon, but i'll enjoy it while i can. got some downloading to do!</ul>

    Glad you guys are finding the site useful. Let me remind you guys, however, that information like this is only available because somebody like yourselves decided to post it as a recipe. Please continue the chain and submit a recipe!
  • Guest
    I have followed the directions as stated. When I go to file-convert I selected the source file type as wma.. but it wont let me select anything other than wma as the output type. How do I output wma to mp3?

    I tested one song and selected wma to wma (since it doesnt give me any other option) and tried to play the output file and it wont play.

    What am I doing wrong???

    Thanks!
  • Guest2
    I'm having the same issue. When I select WMA as the source data type, I cannot choose anything other than WMA as the destination data type. Anyone else experiencing this, or have a solution?
  • smksignals
    it will only convert to wma
    you need to change it with another program
    acoustica, virtuosa, mp3 to whatever :lol:
    several programs will do this
    but not mmjb
  • Guest2
    Understood. It works! Thanks for the quick reply.
  • smksignals
    hey everyone
    seems musicmatch and or microsoft are shutting down the sites we post that carry
    the old versions of mmjb

    what i'm asking from everyone is please find sites that host
    mmjb 6.1 and 7.0 or 7.1
    make sure the link works and pm me with them
    DO NOT POST THEM
    i want to keep updating the recipe with a new link to mmjb
    but only one at a time
    so they(musicmatch, microsoft) don't shut them down all at once

    also if you have the files you can upload them for free at
    http://rapidshare.de/
    use winrar to compress the file to the size allowed you might not have to
    and name the file something else don't name it mmjb6.1
    if you do this please post the link here to the file on rapidshare
    and if you use a password with winrar don't forget to post it also

    thanx
    share the wealth just cause it's working for you
    doesn't mean you can't help
    when people stop trying to help
    it stops people like me from posting educational workarounds
  • smksignals
    it seems
    http://www.old-software.com/software-31.html
    is still working
    but still please pm me with links

    thanx
  • guest22
    I converted 1200 songs under 3.5 hrs, average song would convert in 4-5 seconds, i just used simple technique with music match and that speed up program offered in the earlier post, music match did try to connect to internet but i blocked access with mcaffe firewall, so far have been downloading like crazy, btw i have a amd 64 3500, with 1 gig cosair mem,audigy zs platinum sound card, 10000 rpm raptor, dont know if it makes a difference
  • Anonymous
    followed all directions to the tee.

    when i go to file-->convert
    and then select a file to convert
    and then select source data type=wma

    the only option to convert TO is wma.

    did i miss something?
  • Anonymous
    read the above forum
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>smksignals wrote:</h6>it will only convert to wma
    you need to change it with another program
    acoustica, virtuosa, mp3 to whatever :lol:
    several programs will do this
    but not mmjb</ul>

    it may be just me but its the same for all three computers of mine after converting from wma to wma the acoustica program will not convert them anymore(it still says there is drm which is weird), but others still will :lol:
  • bastardsauce
    Converted the wma files in jukebox 6.1 back to wma files, so what's next? I tried to convert them to mp3 using advanced wma, but it still says they are protected, is there a program that will convert them?, or am I not doing something right? I followed the directions to a"T"
  • Anonymous
    this morning it was working perfectly, i set it to convert all my files, and when i got home, they were converted and i could burn them.

    now, as im trying to convert, it just freezes, and all the files are stopped at 4.8 kb... :( -- the only file that is there is the first file in the list of files i tried to convert.

    but it worked perfectly this morning

    ?
  • guest
    Same thing has happened to me today as well. Hangs at the 5kb mark. Was working fine last night.
  • newb
    same here, i got some converted but then started up napster and after sync i can't get it to work
  • LikeLinus
    <ul id="quote"><h6>guest wrote:</h6>Same thing has happened to me today as well. Hangs at the 5kb mark. Was working fine last night.</ul>

    Same. The hole has been fixed.
  • eddie
    You can still get 7.1 here: http://www.zdnet.nl/downloads.cfm?id=17809

    I've done over 3000 songs since April 23...glad everyone else caught on
  • Guest
    <ul id="quote"><h6>eddie wrote:</h6>You can still get 7.1 here: http://www.zdnet.nl/downloads.cfm?id=17809

    I've done over 3000 songs since April 23...glad everyone else caught on</ul>


    Maybe next time you know how to convert before anyone else you will share the wealth, then we wont have to catch on
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>Guest wrote:</h6></ul><ul id="quote"><h6>eddie wrote:</h6>You can still get 7.1 here: http://www.zdnet.nl/downloads.cfm?id=17809

    I've done over 3000 songs since April 23...glad everyone else caught on</ul>


    Maybe next time you know how to convert before anyone else you will share the wealth, then we wont have to catch on
    I did share it, twice....check it out -
    This Forum I posted April 24 here on tech recipes
    & and this forum 4/24....I do share...see
  • LikeLinus
    It doesnt matter..it doesnt work anymore.
  • smksignals
    still working with the sluts
    8O
    did you download the file from the link
    or did you do my method??????????
  • LikeLinus
    None of it works. 6.0 to 6.1 or 7.1 to 6.1

    They all create 5KB files and just don't work
  • Anonymous
    This seems to be the problem now: On two different computers, MMJB freezes when I try to convert the Napster files. It had worked perfectly fine for me before.
  • Anonymous
    smk can you be more specific on how yours is still working? mines dead.
  • Anonymous
    Same here... as of this morning I'm toast as well. I tried both "recipes" as well, no dice. Anyone find a work around?
  • Anonymous
    Ditto for me. I have tried wma.inp from 6.0, 6.1, and 7.1.
  • Nick
    Mine stopped working right in the middle of converting some songs. MMJB paused on a song that had an expired license and when I stupidly allowed Napster to go fetch a new license, it updated all my songs and now none of them will convert. I have a friend who is still able to convert songs because he is doing it from a laptop that isn't connected to the internet. As long as Napster isn't allowed to send your current songs a new DRM, they should convert fine.... I think.
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>Nick wrote:</h6>Mine stopped working right in the middle of converting some songs. MMJB paused on a song that had an expired license and when I stupidly allowed Napster to go fetch a new license, it updated all my songs and now none of them will convert. I have a friend who is still able to convert songs because he is doing it from a laptop that isn't connected to the internet. As long as Napster isn't allowed to send your current songs a new DRM, they should convert fine.... I think.</ul>

    No this is not actually the case I have 3 computers and 2 are not connected and its the same problem on all three.
  • Nick
    Then how do you suppose the hole gets plugged?
  • Anonymous
    I've been wondering that for a while now. It has to have something to do with microsoft updating something in the program file (in this case mmj),
    because it never used to try to connect to the internet before now.

    I label all downloaded music with dates a few days at a time then turn off all internet and start changing then. Well two days in (up till now all is working fine) I connect to the net (with no programs running to check an email or two) and then shut off net again and then go to start again and it wont work.

    first it tries to connect though your browser to your music lic on your machine
    than after failing it will try connecting straight to napster to get it (and when it fails it keeps trying for ever)

    so my thoughts are microsoft connects behind your back and changes what ever it was that allowed it do work.
  • Nick
    That may be. I also noticed that when MMJ got stuck, almost like it was waiting for a song to get a usable license, IE was notifying me that something/something/temp/tempDRM.something was trying to get a download from the internet. I disallowed it, but later turned around and connected to Napsteranyway. That's part of the reason I was thinking maybe Napster sent an updated DRM to the songs which in turn "confused" MMJ.

    I guess we'll keep looking.
  • Anonymous
    plug me :lol:
  • Saxy Nate
    I've been converting over the last few days, today I'm still going and now my musicmatch just keeps freezing up. Can't convert anymore...
  • BDW725
    Can someone tell me if this trick is still working. I had tried this and it worked great for a day or two. Now however it seems to just hang when I try and convert a song. Is anyone else having this problem too? Or does anyone know of a way I can solve this problem?

    Thanks in advance
  • monkeysHAHAHA
    It still works for me...
  • Eddie
    original 6.0 still workin for me, slow but works.
  • gman
    <ul id="quote"><h6>monkeysHAHAHA wrote:</h6>It still works for me...</ul>

    What method are u using?
  • guest
    I did all the steps, but the machine locks up when I try and convert them. I am running Windows XP Pro with service pack 2. I used to have musicmatch 10, but deleted it when I insatlled this. I worked for about 2000 files, now it will nort work anymore. Did they find a patch to make it quit working? Please help I still have about 150 files left to convert.
  • Anonymous
    It ain't working unless you downloaded the songs last week and haven't been online since. The files have all been updated. Time for the next trick.
  • Anonymous
    Howdy chefs!

    VERY frustrated like us all. I have bought enough hard disc music to send somebody to retirement. I am in love with this N#$st&r trial thing and did the Virtuoso trick a couple months ago.

    Looking through, the consensus seems to be looking for free conversion techniques. Answer me this....is there a pay service that can strip the DRM or do the conversion of the N#$st&r files that I acquired during the trial period? At this point, I'll pay, fuck it. The alternative is to go back to Kazaa..(sigh)......

    Anybody?
  • zeric
    About a month ago I burned nearly 2000 drm protected songs onto cd as data with no problem. They all still play since ive started paying for napster, since they are bunred, the drm shouldnt be able to be converted, correct? Ive tried converting them with the latest method but no such luck...Should I disconnect from the net? Thanks a lot
  • Anonymous
    ITS NOT WORKING, I FOLLOWED THE STEPS LIKE 8 TIMES, DELETING AND INSTALLING OVER AND OVER. ANYBODY HAVE ANYMORE IDEAS. IT JUST FREEZES. IVE TRYED EVERY TRICK HERE AND NOTHING WORKS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE
  • holla
    i did what was told of me and it still wont convert it just sit there no bar bee up on the file conversion progess screen
  • guest
    just use tune bite, download all the freaking music, start tunebite to convert all in real time go to work, come back and they will all be converted, of course those that dont have jobs, go play basketball,go to the mall or do something, just have patience
  • Anonymous
    Tunebite is still an Analog Solution and the last time I tried it you couldn't save in WMA format so you had to save it in MP3 format and then convert it again - losing even more quality.

    There's been comments from other people about how Tunebite handles the beginning and ending of files. Apparently there's either some overlap of tracks and incorrect truncation at the end of tracks.

    A much better (albeit still analog) solution is Total Recorder (Professional Version). The Pro verse retains all the tagging from the original WMA or MP3 file in most players (comes with a special visualization plug-in for Windows Media Player that you must use to capture the tag info if using that player). Total Recorder records to a variety of formats including MP3, WMA, WAV, OGG and a few others I've never heard of.

    It allows you to set a user defined amount of time from the previous file when recording several tracks in a row and automatically pend that snippet to the current file, which eliminates the problem Tunebites has with beginning of files. And it has a sound editor that allows you to cut any overlap off at the end of tracks. Which solves the end of file recognition problem some people report they had with Tunebite.

    If you take 5 to 10 minutes to check out the options and skim the help files you will get good results everytime. But it is still a slow process and if you make sure the ends of tracks stop where they should after doing a batch of recording it will take you a half minute or so per track.

    And it may not work with all sound cards (there's a trial so you can check it out) but neither does Tunebite.

    Till the next digital solution comes along Total Recorder is the best alternative I've seen.
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
    i don't think that it's a change in the program itself. i believe that it's an MS update to the registry or operating system files. I unplugged my computer from the net, uninstalled the software and made sure to delete everything manually that wasn't removed. i reinstalled the software following the directiongs. Still locks up....
  • Lance
    sucks, this method no longer works. napster fixed this problem and now whenever you try to convert them with this method it just locks up and doesn't do anything :(

    hopefully there is another way 8)
  • mor_f
    i think what bothers me the most about this whole DRM thing is....

    the RIAA is taking away our ownership of the music even if it is BOUGHT
    the last time i checked i thought once I bought something, i paid all of the fees necessary to do whatever the hell I wanted with the material. give me a user code on all of my devices that gets burned into the firmware...whatever it takes. BUT when i purchase a song, I want to be able to put it on all of my media players. i do not like the idea of having to logon to the internet to regain permission to play a damn song.

    it sucks... the musicians make the music, sell the music to the music industry, in return make a dime for every dollar earned by the industry

    hell, the musicians ought to sell their own music online directly to the consumer and squeeze the fat-cats out of the deal entirely.
  • naps
    now that mmjb is out of the question.....any new tricks?
  • naps
    it seems like the only way to do it now is through the sound card. this is too time consuming.

    just a thought.....if i played a song 4x faster than normal and increased my sampling rate 4x, would i still lose audio quality?

    any comments?
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote">
    just a thought.....if i played a song 4x faster than normal and increased my sampling rate 4x, would i still lose audio quality?
    </ul>

    You would not lost quality. However, most sound cards cannot sample above 48kHz, and good quality digital files are usually 44.1kHz or so. So unless you have a sound card that can sample at least 88kHz, you are SOL.

    Good idea though.
  • Ya Boy
    Should of read the last posts and I've would've known not to try the conversion!!! Anyway, I cant unistall or play mmjb. The error I get when trying to start is "The prodecure entry point aac_codec_register could not be located in the dynamic link library xaudio.dll" and when trying to unistall I get uninst.isu is not valid or data is corrupt. I've tried re-installing and uninstalling, but that didn't work. Any suggestions?
  • Anonymous
    <ul id="quote"><h6>Anonymous wrote:</h6>[quote]
    However, most sound cards cannot sample above 48kHz, and good quality digital files are usually 44.1kHz or so. So unless you have a sound card that can sample at least 88kHz, you are SOL.

    Good idea though.</ul>For $100 bucks you can get an Emu 121m or one of the Creative Labs cards that support 192khz sampling rate.
  • Anonymous
    This is an intriguing possibility. I think I have the basic recipe for how to do this, can someone look this recipe over and make corrections please? Since I don't currently have one of the sound cards that support a 192khz sampling rate I just assume my current option of 48khz max would increase to 192 max if one were installed. Correct?

    I'm going to use the examples of Windows Media Player as the player and TotalRecorder as the capture program because that's what I have but this should work with other programs that have similar capabilities. Anyway as I see it the recipe would be:

    1. Open WMP and Rack up all the songs you want to play as a playlist in WMP (drag them all to the playlist window from their folder).
    2. Go to the WMP View menu, point to Enhancements, and then click Play Speed Settings, then in the Enhancements pane, move the Play Speed slider to right to 4.0
    3. Open Total Recorder and go to "recording source and parameters" and set the recording rate to the type of file you want WMA, MP3 whatever and the kbps to what you normally would (say 128 or 192) and THEN make sure the khz is set to 4 times the usual rate you would have used (if normally 48, set to 192).
    4. Set the recording speed in Total Recorder to a rate of 4 times normal speed.
    5. Set the recording program to record
    6. Play the playlist in WMP

    Is this right? I know I left out some of the usual setup steps but I'm trying to focus on the specific steps necessary to increase the speed.

    Thanks.
  • Anonymous
    trying this increased sampling method will probably cause a decrease in quality more than a real time conversion. the problem is a too technically advanced for this forum, but it has to do with the behavior of signals after sampling and how sampling affects the spectrum. if you speed up the playback, you're already loosing quality since it's not an analog file to begin with. speeding up playback is much different in the digital world than it is with a tape or record player. you skip bytes rather than increase the speed in which the bytes are read. also, by increasing the sampling rate, you're more likely to increase the amount of noise in the audio track. it's a great theory, but unfortunately would only work if the source was pure analog.
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